Marshmallow People

Posted by Jason Steele | Saturday 26 February 2011 7:44 pm

What is all this marshmallow nonsense…



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  1. Comment by Megore — February 26, 2011 @ 7:52 pm

    That made my day, thank you :)

  2. Comment by Demons Dog — February 26, 2011 @ 7:59 pm

    That was awesome

  3. Comment by Fer — February 26, 2011 @ 8:54 pm

    ITS GONE!!!
    it was so funny too :( (((

  4. Comment by Kohl — February 26, 2011 @ 9:12 pm

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I’ve been waiting so long for a FilmCow Video :)

  5. Comment by KirstyThePie — February 26, 2011 @ 10:09 pm

    I like nonsense… and soft faces… Therefore, let it be known that I like this video :D

  6. Comment by Chickenman — February 26, 2011 @ 11:25 pm

    Yay! Hooray! Hallelujah and such.

    A Random Internet Person.

  7. Comment by doijj — February 27, 2011 @ 5:50 am

    37th youtube video!

  8. Comment by MARSHMALLOWPERSON — February 27, 2011 @ 8:19 am

    MAKE #2,3,4,5,6,7

  9. Comment by Peter — February 27, 2011 @ 10:28 am

    Funny, took long to make thow.

  10. Comment by Lilly — February 27, 2011 @ 4:59 pm

    OHMIGOD, LIVING MARSHMELLOS!!! Whats next, living evil potatoes? (That WOULD be kinda funny to see…)

  11. Comment by Robert — February 27, 2011 @ 5:58 pm

    Truly a spectacular video mister Steel your creativity and originality remains unbeaten good job

  12. Comment by Snurgle — February 28, 2011 @ 12:07 pm

    why would a marshmallow start fires…then again they do seem to have death wishes.

    on another note I want an otter, it would offer more chances to think. i wonder if jason does his best thinking on the otter…..

  13. Comment by MARSHMALLOWPERSON — February 28, 2011 @ 7:15 pm


  14. Comment by naomi — March 1, 2011 @ 1:07 am

    I want some of what ur smoking

  15. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 2:46 pm

    Doesn’t it bother you to steal so heavily from Don Hertzfeldt? I mean, this isn’t even debatable.

  16. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 3:03 pm


    I’m familiar with most of Don’s rather amazing work, but I’m not sure what you’re getting at. And not to put down my own stuff, but Don makes pretty remarkable shorts about the meaning of existence and the frailty of life, and Marshmallow People is just a bunch of marshmallows freaking out, hah.

    The characters in “Marshmallow People” are more or less the same as the characters from “charlie teh unicron,” and no one thought that was Hertzfeldtian, so is it the fact that I used stick-figure arms instead of regular arms this time?

    I completely understand if my cartoon reminds you of Hertzfeldt, but any similarities were not intentional and I certainly don’t think there’s anything similar enough to call “stealing.”

  17. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 3:12 pm

    Come on man, it’s the falsetto voices, the stick figure limbs, the stabbing, the non-sequiters, the big dark eyes… wasn’t that line about “now he is a part of me foreverrrr” also something from Hertzfeldt? I think that was a joke from a DVD commentary of his.

    I love your stuff man but this one made me embarrassed for ya. You should ease off the Hertzfeldt next time, it makes you seem unoriginal and less creative (when in fact you’re not).

    Also you should send Hertzfeldt a note if you like his work, he’s a cool cat!

  18. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 3:17 pm


    Everything you described outside of “stick figure limbs” can be used to describe most everything I’ve ever done, and probably most of what’s on Adult Swim. And I’ve never listened to a Hertzfeldt’s DVD commentary, if he made a similar joke there it’s a coincidence.

    Really, outside of perhaps a stylistic similarity Marshmallow People and the work of Don are nothing alike. You’re seeing something here that I genuinely do not see.

  19. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 3:30 pm

    Yeah the artists at Adult Swim would probably agree with you, many have said their shows wouldn’t exist without Hertzfeldt’s influence.

    But I really think there’s a line you crossed there, and maybe you’re right, it’s just that added stylistic stick figure thing, but the first thing I thought when I watched this one was HERTZFELDT, and a sinking sensation that you would do something like that :( And then they started stabbing each other and all the rest of it..

    Not trying to bring you down or anything, it’s just my opinion. But I don’t think I’m alone in this, here are just a few of the other comments from blogs and Youtube that I found in less than 20 seconds:

    “I liked this better the first time, when it was called Don Hertzfeld’­s Rejected.”

    “So is Don Hertzfeldt the most ripped-off animator ever now, or what?”

    “Definitely seems a lot like Don Hertzfeld’s animated shorts.”

    “Don Hertzfeldt meets Charlie the Unicorn”


  20. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 3:51 pm


    Many of the most influential Adult Swim shows (Sealab 2021, Harvey Birdman, Space Ghost) were in development before Don released his breakout hit “Rejected.” I’m sure many new AS shows were influenced by Don’s work, but I think you’re overstating the effect he had.

    And I’m sorry, but I just completely disagree with you. I don’t think any “line” was crossed here, and Hertzfeldt’s work didn’t even cross my mind until you made your post on this blog.

    As for those YouTube comments, I got people comparing “Stanley and the Pineapple” to “The Annoying Orange” simply because my cartoon had an orange in it. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that Marshmallow People reminded you of Hertzfeldt’s work, but I do think it’s completely off the mark to say it’s similar enough to be called a rip-off.

  21. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 4:22 pm

    Well I didn’t expect you’d agree with me :) Why would you?

    I don’t think it’s quite as simple as comparing statements about “an orange in this one and an orange in that one.” It goes quite a bit deeper than oranges when different people are spotting the same artist’s trademark drawing style, voice, and sensibilities appearing in another person’s work.

    I think any reasonable person can sit down and watch “Rejected” (or “Intermission in the 3rd Dimension”) and then watch “Marshmallow People” and see major, awkward similarities across the board. Whereas I don’t think that’s the case with Hertzfeldt’s work and Charlie the Unicorn.

    Anyway, just wanted to voice this. It sounds like you weren’t aware of these other people calling the Hertzfeldt thing out, so I’m at least glad I brought this to your attn, even if you say you don’t see it.

  22. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 4:48 pm


    Sorry man, just don’t agree with you.

    There are things I have made where a similarity was later brought to my attention (like the fish rap in Charlie 3 vs the Pokerap), and in those cases I will readily admit that I almost certainly subconsciously borrowed from the source. But in this case I honestly, genuinely do not think they’re as similar as you seem to believe. Stylistically similar to some of Don’s earlier work? Sure, but it really doesn’t go beyond that.

  23. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 5:04 pm

    I hear ya, I’m an animator too (interning in Burbank) so I understand all this stuff.

    I’m just saying you may be in danger of losing some fans/respect over this one. Another comment from Youtube 10 minutes ago:

    “You’re trying waayyyyy to hard to be like Don Hertzfeldt. And failing miserably.”

    Please don’t make me out to be the lone crazy person voicing this opinion, because then I think you’re underestimating your audience.

    And again, I do (usually) enjoy your work, that’s why I’m writing :) Peace out.

  24. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 5:23 pm


    These types of comparisons are made every time I release something, and I’m pretty sure there are less people making the Hertzfeldt comparison than made the Annoying Orange comparison on Stanley and the Pineapple. As an aside, I’ve already gotten three e-mails from people saying Marshmallow People ripped off the old pedophile from Family Guy, as well as Towelie from South Park.

    People tend to find similarities between things they happen to be familiar with. There are millions of videos, movies and shows out there, so it is nearly impossible to create something that is immune to this sort of response. But there is “similar” and there is “ripped off.”

  25. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 5:25 pm

    “These types of comparisons are made every time I release something”

    But that doesn’t automatically mean they are all without merit.

  26. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 5:27 pm


    You said “Please don’t make me out to be the lone crazy person voicing this opinion”

    I’m simply pointing out that “some YouTube comments agree with you” doesn’t necessarily mean much in this argument.

  27. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 5:45 pm

    Well I’m sure I could dig up more comments if I spent the time. The number of them isn’t really the point though, is it? Would it change your mind if a million people wrote the same Hertzfeldt thing as this dozen people? As an artist, I would be concerned if just one person brought something like that up, it’s kind of a big deal. The Family Guy comparison of a single vocal performance… an orange in another cartoon… that’s obviously minor, silly surface stuff. It can’t really be compared to people saying, “you are writing and drawing exactly like this other artist almost to the point of mimickry,” can it?

    Anyway, thanks for taking the time to write. I do think this has been interesting, and I hope you don’t think I’m just trying to troll you or something.

  28. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 6:21 pm

    There are some comparisons that bother me. The Charlie 3 song and the Pokerap? That’s valid, and that bothers me. Marshmallow People and Hertzfeldt? I just don’t think your statements here are reasonable.

    Lets take your points one by one. First, the voices. Don has characters with “high pitched” voices, but are they similar outside of the pitch? I suppose that’s subjective, but many of my videos over the last 15 years have had these kinds of voices and I’ve never gotten that comparison. Why now? I don’t think they’re any more similar to his characters than to the pedophile on Family Guy (a comparison the marshmallow people have also gotten.)

    As for the art style, how are they similar outside of the stick figure limbs? The cartoon has the same style I’ve used in most of my videos – Photoshop painted backgrounds and brightly colored and simple character art.

    Even the general tone and style aren’t all that similar. You want to know what I was thinking about when writing this? Adventure Time and Ren and Stimpy. Those are the cartoons that had an influence on Marshmallow People. You know when the white marshmallow screams and the camera moves in for a close-up? That was directly inspired by similar shots on the Ren and Stimpy Show. None of this was made with Hertzfeldt anywhere in my head, and even after you’ve made the comparison I simply don’t see it outside of a few superficial similarities.

  29. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 6:42 pm

    But my friend don’t you see that it’s ALL of those things in the same cartoon that will create the accusation?

    Like most people, whenever I see squiggly hand-drawn minimal characters (featureless but for big dark eyes and a simple mouth), with black stick figure limbs and three fingers, spouting random funny non-sequiters in falsetto voices, engaging in random acts of bloody violence, in a silly surreal story…. I’m going to think of Don Hertzfeldt. There is no way around that.

    My God, it carries even more weight since you’ve cited him as a major influence in the forums here. I just think it’s strange that you seem so surprised this has come up.

    Anyway I don’t want to beat a dead unicorn.

  30. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 6:48 pm

    You said “don’t you see it’s ALL of those things”, but I’m saying I don’t think those things are valid.

    I’m sorry man, I readily admit when weird similarities come up but I don’t think they exist here to the extent you seem to believe.

  31. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 7:04 pm

    But Jason what are you saying isn’t valid?

    My point was, this cartoon and Hertzfeldt’s popluar stuff both contain “squiggly hand-drawn minimal characters (featureless but for big dark eyes and a simple mouth), with black stick figure limbs and three fingers, spouting random funny non-sequiters in falsetto voices, engaging in random acts of bloody violence, in a silly surreal story…”

    Are you saying that’s not true?

    I feel like you’re saying, “Yeah my movie has lightsabers, spaceships, lasers, Ewoks, and a guy who looks like Darth Vader, but any similarity to Star Wars is totally coincidental and nuts.”

  32. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 7:18 pm

    Your description of the similarities aren’t valid. I don’t even understand what you mean by “large dark eyes”, considering his characters always have small pinpoint eyes. And seriously, what Western cartoon in the last 50 years hasn’t had the same “black pupils, white eye” design?

    And you’re making a huge fallacy in your list of comparisons. That list can literally apply to thousands of cartoons that came before and after Hertzfeldt’s.

    For instance, “hand-drawn minimal characters spouting random funny non-sequiturs in falsetto voices, engaging in random acts of bloody violence, in a silly surreal story” – those parts describe nearly every show on Adult Swim and almost every cartoon I’ve ever made.

    You can make a similar list comparing Star Wars and Undercover Brother if you wanted to.

  33. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 7:31 pm

    “That list can literally apply to thousands of cartoons that came before and after Hertzfeldt’s.”

    Come on, now you’re just being ridiculous. Of those “thousands” can you even name just ten that came before Hertzfeldt? Can you name just one? Here’s my list again. Remember, the cartoons you cite must hit every single mark:

    “squiggly hand-drawn minimal characters (featureless but for big dark eyes and a simple mouth), with black stick figure limbs and three fingers, spouting random funny non-sequiters in falsetto voices, engaging in random acts of bloody violence, in a silly surreal story…”

  34. Comment by C.J. — March 1, 2011 @ 7:47 pm

    Jason I think you just got trolled by some random guy

    There is no way he believed any of the stuff he said

  35. Comment by SPARKY — March 1, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

    When I first saw “Marshmallow” I thought, “Cool, a Hertzfeld homage!” It didn’t bother me cuz I thought that was obvious & funny, like it was so obvious it didn’t even need to be pointed out.

    Reading this thread and watching Filmcow spin around with crazy denials does bother me. Gross. Dude, it’s a wanna be Hertzfeld. Ain’t nothing wrong with that if you just admit it. Reading this crazy stuff is like you’re trying to convince me that the friggin Earth is flat.

  36. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 10:10 pm

    @ CJ

    Now you’re trolling me.

  37. Comment by Jason Steele — March 1, 2011 @ 10:27 pm


    OH MY GOD.

    My point with your list is that it’s a fallacy you’re presenting. You’ve hand-picked a large number of generic elements you believe are similar, and the problem with such a list is that the vast majority of the elements (in fact, every single one of them outside of the stick figure arms) can be applied to any number of cartoons from the last few decades.

    As I stated earlier, this cartoon is very much in line with the type of stuff I’ve making forever. The only major difference now is the stick figure arms. If the same script with the same voices and the same art style had been done without stick figure arms would you be writing to me about it? Because you didn’t for “charlie teh unicron.”

    Clearly this is going nowhere and I’m not going to change your mind. All I can say is that any similarities you see between my video and the work of Don Hertzfeldt was unintentional.


    The cartoon was not created with any of Hertzfeldt’s work in mind, and I genuinely do not think the comparisons are obvious. So what exactly should I be saying when someone comes on my blog and makes a plagiary accusation like randall did?

  38. Comment by randall — March 1, 2011 @ 10:33 pm

    Yeah forget it, we are both looking at the same piece of fruit and I say “apple” and you say “orange”…. it’s not worth arguing about anymore and I wish it didn’t drag out this far. We agree to disagree!

    Next time, maybe just stay away from those stick limbs, heh ;)

  39. Comment by Eric — March 2, 2011 @ 12:25 am

    This went on way too long.
    Randall’s being ridiculous and he knows it.
    Sparky is likely Randall. If not… he’s also being pretty ridiculous.

    As much as I’d love to say “Oh yeah, that does look an awful lot like Hertzfeldt’s work,” I only think that based on Randall’s little list, which, like Jason’s already said, could be applied to pretty much anything these days.

    So… yeah. Y’all are crazy.

  40. Comment by randall — March 2, 2011 @ 3:28 am

    “This went on way too long.”
    (Drags it on even more)

  41. Comment by cOLIN — March 2, 2011 @ 7:18 am

    Tetter Otter! Hey Jason is your face kinda soft?

  42. Comment by cOLIN — March 2, 2011 @ 7:21 am

    randalls just a Prick!

  43. Comment by coolman1081 — March 2, 2011 @ 11:30 am

    I disagree with randall. Yes, It does remind me a little of Hetzfeldt’s work but, it’s certainly not copying it, defiantly not crossing any line.

    and eric, you are right sparky was almost certainly randell, I mean it’s so easy to change your name, besides Jason can find out in a matter of seconds, just check the IP Address and Email.

    As to the stupid people commenting on Youtube saying “Stanly & The Pineapple” is copying “Annoying Orange”, you are terribly, terribly wrong. First of all HE”S A FREKIN PAPAYA!!! and he has two lines in the entire movie! Also “AO” has friends, whereas Papaya is clearly hated.

    Great Video! Glad You Finally Released A New One. :D

  44. Comment by randall — March 2, 2011 @ 1:58 pm


    Yes please, do check the IP and the email address. Because obviously anyone who disagrees with you must be some kind of crazy liar, right? I’m probably all the people making negative comments on Youtube and other blogs too, right?

    Hey look, a Reddit thread about “Marshmallow People” Obviously I’m also all of these commenters too:

    “A shitty, shitty, trying-too-hard ripoff of Don Hertzfeldt. Ugh, this video was just god-awful.”

    “You just watched a lame in comparison rip off of “Rejected Cartoons” by Don Hertzfeldt.”

    “A much less funny Don Hertzfeldt rip off.”

    “not even in half as fucked as hertzfeldt’s animations, but nice try”

    Let it go. Some people have opinions that differ from yours. Later.

  45. Comment by Jason Steele — March 2, 2011 @ 2:54 pm


    You can voice your opinions without being a jerk about it. You might not be a troll but you’re certainly acting like one.

  46. Comment by coolman1081 — March 2, 2011 @ 3:06 pm

    Jason this was in my opinion one of your best. P.S. With everyone talking about AS, didn’t you make a pitch to them for a Charlie the Unicorn TV Show?

    Anyways if you could make your episodes quicker and more constantly, you could have a pretty nice show that’d be kinda along the lines of Robot Chicken.

  47. Comment by randall — March 2, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

    Sorry if you thought I’m a jerk, just trying to defend myself and make a point. I am virtually shaking your hand and considering this topic closed. Peace out.

  48. Comment by Jason Steele — March 2, 2011 @ 3:24 pm


    Alright man, truce. Hah.

  49. Comment by Shane — March 3, 2011 @ 5:52 pm

    I’d like to see the scenario from these comments made into a future cartoon in a very subtle way.

  50. Comment by doijj — March 3, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

    randall = defeated.

  51. Comment by Bob the Magic Dolphin — March 4, 2011 @ 4:37 pm

    Hey Jason… What’s the whole deal with “death bat 4″? Are you going to make a 3rd and 2nd or something? Or is it just random? I’m very confused. Please explain.

  52. Comment by Winston — March 4, 2011 @ 7:48 pm

    @Bob: Not trying to be Jason here, but I think part of the humor of Death Bat 4 is that you’re not supposed to know the background, or what the hell went on in the “first 3 installments.” Sure, he might make them just for shits and giggles, but making this one the “fourth movie in the series” is just for comedic effect :)

  53. Comment by fridelain — March 5, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

    “Good artists copy. Great artists steal” ~ Picasso

  54. Comment by This is My Name — March 6, 2011 @ 7:55 am

    AAAAAANNNNDDD…Into the ravine.

    Probably your best EVER! So funny. I cant stop watching.

  55. Comment by Robert — March 7, 2011 @ 12:14 am

    Hmmmmm not sure how to respond to this one Jason….

  56. Comment by coolman1081 — March 7, 2011 @ 11:18 am

    @Bob & Winston: Kinda Like Dad Cop 2.

  57. Comment by Mars — March 7, 2011 @ 5:21 pm

    I don’t even.

    To be honest, this is the first short you have produced that has made me consider you to be on some kind of intoxication while writing. Whether it be alcohol, weed, butterscotch pudding, meth, or fruit loops, stay off the hard stuff man.

    Though what can I say. This has 3 times as many views as death bat. Targeting children is cheating my friend. And you hit the jackpot of their market.

    As far as a review, The only tidbit that comes to mind would be the colors melted together. The light shades of pink and purple were hard to distinguish. The browns slid together.
    Miss triangle’s bow was where my eye centered for many shots.
    Interesting idea to blur the background on the closeups. It helps when your backgrounds aren’t always vectors. (Ae, the clouds and the otters skin) It’s quite unnoticeable, yet focuses your attention very effectively.

    “Did you eat part of” Ive heard you say that before… Probably in one of your knoxkasts…
    Speaking of, I was a little disappointed with Chaos pony actually coming to be. I had finally accepted it to be a joke. Now chaos pony comes out, FLASH! BAM! POP! (okay, maybe not the Bam) There goes my whole life. (Just started the first episode)

  58. Comment by RT — March 7, 2011 @ 9:22 pm

    I believe Winston is correct he’s trying to do like a Star Wars effect where he had chapters IV, V and VI but if i’m not mistaken in his case he was pushed to making I, II and III after his movies where a big hit, Except in this case Steel is trying to make a video where you use your own imagination to create a background story. So imagine very hard lol

  59. Comment by TunaFish — March 8, 2011 @ 11:00 pm

    Dear Jason Steele,

    I would like to be your baby mama.

  60. Comment by X-man — March 9, 2011 @ 10:19 pm

    how do you guys make these vids!?

  61. Comment by Kyle — March 10, 2011 @ 12:06 am

    Dis video is awesome. Where’s that new massive site update that was said to be up by the end of February?

  62. Comment by Lilly — March 10, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

    EVERYONE GET ON OTTER, NOW!!!!! Ohmigod, instant classic.

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